Member spills cider, tries to contain it with her mouth, spits it out and licks the table.
Feelings
- Confused, but interested
- the guy said: the establishment of this lamp created two side effects, positioning of the table and the carpet, the carpet had two side-effects
- then Isreal
- NOISE
- I was so happy when he posed the main thesis of the book in the introduction
- I would like the book
- I need a simple reader for dummies
- Similar emotional reaction -> it did not make me mad that there was a lack of understanding -> I missed feeling like this
- go deep into the small caveats
- nice feeling to have
- Most of the texts I read are very simple and structured
- Intellectually challenging
- For some authors I love and for some hate it
- Similar, put off at first -> the text was very climatic
- sticks the points at the end
- gradually building on points
- being lead at the
- It took some time
- the introduction was a bit putting
- a bit ranty
- at some point I was not sure what was his view point
- desire and excess
Style
- Intersection of aesthetics and politics
- It translates into the style
- The style and the emotions were very connected
- Before the Moderns cut off the heads of kings so they could fill up their shopping trolleys at leisure, there were the Ancients, and first of all those Greeks, who severed links with the divine shepherd and set down, under the double name of philosophy and politics, the public record of this farewell
- That name is pastoral government -> I liked the image
- Repetition of the doubles -> double bind, double metamorphosis of democracy
- both collectivity and alienation -> the double bind
- Meandering style
- Liked that he referenced
- Very different to the text from last week which was completely self-contained
- Anarchy, State and Utopia -> also in a style of Rant
- Nozick took some drugs
- He just let it there
- Picture of a whole class of Harvard -> Nozick being the king of the party, Rawls being sitting rigidly
Theory
- How intellectual treatment of democracy has changed -> the critique is of elite instrumentalization of democracy
- There is only one good democracy
- It was difficult to understand what exactly he is critiquing
- Is it just about control?
- Do they not like excess because they cannot control?
- The point about the technocrats -> Aristoteles
- Who are the contemporary examples?
- Techy San Francisco crowd -> Peter Thiel
- What they don't get that running a state is not running a firm
- it is about conflict -> about distributive consequences
- There is no such thing as one transcendental
- What they truly hate that everybody has a stance
- Critical about how the language of democracy is weaponized
- Democracy is always Excessive -> it cannot be combined
- The ontology of Ranciere:
- the word itself is an expression of hatred
- Overlap between a democracy as a form of government and a democracy as a form of society
- Issue with conservatism under the facade of loving
- maintaining a certain state
- Are there left wing haters of democracy?
- Book: the same argument made by conservative ethnocentric people mirrors some arguments of radical communists -> we know what to do
- Transcendental common good, rather than the individual as the common good
- In Latin America:
- authoritarianism is associated with left-wing politics mostly
- Is it just about who holds political power?
- Countries that survived dictatorship and civil war -> not a good example of the left
- authoritarian or populist left
- Right is associated with order and security
- When you have such an extreme repression from these governments -> they radicalize more rapidly towards the right
- Nobel Prize Winner -> before she got it, she has been in contact with paramilitary far-right
- It is about how you structure the government -> leftist government, but no change in the structures (Columbia example)
- Columbia still considered democratic, but not really
- Book recommendation: The Case Against Elections
- As a collectivity we have absurdity together
Critique
- AfD -> should we forbid this party?
- The causes are elsewhere
- Like cutting a head of the hydra
- Hitler came to power by winning the elections
- Shit is going on in France -> hire him again
- Handmaid's tale quote:
- When you keep increasing the temperature by a bit and a bit you will not notice when its burning
- Frog also somehow involve
- Criticizes surrogacy
- Uncomfortable when he spoke about democracy as a society
- That is a very political scientific take -> we always see institutions
- If democracy is everything
- What isn't it? It just becomes a floating signifier
- They love critiquing, but what are they actually
- Romania: revoking elections results -> fears of Russian interference
- super populist campaign, virtually unknown before
- I will always be for the self-determination of the people, even if it takes them to the abyss
- Fuck around and find out
- Kill God and see what happens
- Member spreads American propaganda
- Country run by political scientists
- it would be pretty good?
- The dream is to study power -> democracy is overrated, we become anarchists
- Department: many self-sustained initiatives
- Many other who would argue that we know better
- Order over freedom -> perennial struggle